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Uhm, Mnessie, let's think about the scientific method. Because that's pretty much what I was talking about, referring to life experience (Gregol got my meaning right).
Mnessie's understanding of "using experience to answer life's questions""Some person" has been very happy with life at several points in time feeling truly ecstatic with the world around him/her. This I would classify as an experience. This experience will then be part of him/her and be used to help him/her answer questions about being happy in life. Right?
It goes beyond that. Big example in case it isn't clear.
Let me give you a more concrete example. How would you answer the question "How should I deal with annoying people"? There are many paths you can choose. You can ignore them, you can avoid them, you can annoy them back (and there are many ways of doing this, from the blunt to the succinct).
The answer to this question will be determined by your past experiences in life. For example, if your background was on some Internet forums, you might have learned that belittling others and making a fool of them earns you the greatest respect amongst the forum people. So you decide that the best course of action is to make a fool of them.
Other people might have a bit more of a psychological background and instead decided that to solve a conflict you should not create more of it (there might be other factors that could lead somebody to take this decision, mind you).
The part where I say "we believe we made our best effort" is basically saying "we believe we made the right choice, we picked the right answer." When you say:
So I can not readily accept your idea of best effort being of such relevance in experience vs questions
I think this is because, personally, you seem to not be "too confident" on the decisions you reached (it's the impression I got from the rest of the comment). That you don't become confident on your conclusions does not mean that others will not be.
(expanding the explanation on the example)Think back on the first example, the person who is good at demeaning others who annoy them. This person could be very confident this is the right way to deal with people, and will refuse to "chicken out" to more passive methods. That's what I mean with closed-mindedness and confidence (i.e.: "believe we made our best effort").
I don't see how being accurate about something requires being sure of it.
Again, you are missing the point I was trying to make. I never said there was a relationship between "confidence" and "accuracy". (in fact, psychological studies have shown the reverse: the people who are the most confident are often wrong). What I said is that our "confidence" is directly related to our willingness to "accept" that we are wrong (if we are wrong).
Back on the bias topic...
Mnessie's definition of biasI used the following definition of Bias for myself. Being of an opinion or view about something based on non-rationale/non-logic such as the awfuly common mistake of thinking that ones experience is more accurate than others. I guess this is somewhat too close to being "near-sighted" as not all options are considered. Maybe that is a better definition. Not looking at the whole picture = bias. Or would that be cutting off too much?
Changing the definition of a word from the official dictionary one is not going to make things easier to discuss, you know.
In fact, I don't think we have really been discussing bias at all so far. It's something closer to... "can we have (and defend) an opinion knowing it might not be the truth?" I think, would you agree? Phrased like that, I think most of the remarks you've both made make sense so far.
SK7000
almost 12 years agoIt goes beyond that. Big example in case it isn't clear.
The answer to this question will be determined by your past experiences in life. For example, if your background was on some Internet forums, you might have learned that belittling others and making a fool of them earns you the greatest respect amongst the forum people. So you decide that the best course of action is to make a fool of them.
Other people might have a bit more of a psychological background and instead decided that to solve a conflict you should not create more of it (there might be other factors that could lead somebody to take this decision, mind you).
The part where I say "we believe we made our best effort" is basically saying "we believe we made the right choice, we picked the right answer." When you say:
I think this is because, personally, you seem to not be "too confident" on the decisions you reached (it's the impression I got from the rest of the comment). That you don't become confident on your conclusions does not mean that others will not be.
(expanding the explanation on the example)Think back on the first example, the person who is good at demeaning others who annoy them. This person could be very confident this is the right way to deal with people, and will refuse to "chicken out" to more passive methods. That's what I mean with closed-mindedness and confidence (i.e.: "believe we made our best effort").
Again, you are missing the point I was trying to make. I never said there was a relationship between "confidence" and "accuracy". (in fact, psychological studies have shown the reverse: the people who are the most confident are often wrong). What I said is that our "confidence" is directly related to our willingness to "accept" that we are wrong (if we are wrong).
Back on the bias topic...
Changing the definition of a word from the official dictionary one is not going to make things easier to discuss, you know.
In fact, I don't think we have really been discussing bias at all so far. It's something closer to... "can we have (and defend) an opinion knowing it might not be the truth?" I think, would you agree? Phrased like that, I think most of the remarks you've both made make sense so far.