@SK7000
Let's put it like that: I'm not VERY ignorant of European history. I do, however, lack a "qualification" of any relevant type. Actually, I was hoping that all of you would be knowledgeable enough to think up examples...

Also, people wanting to miss out on "a little poverty" doesn't mean it's bad for them.
"Poverty is a blessing that everyone hates" - proverb of some sort...
(I'm inviting you to debate this)