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daniel_w said:
If you seriously think that pc is useless when it comes to games, then you are beyond any help. ^^
I don't know, its like you can play some games on a PC like RTSs and RPGs games but win it come to FPSs, RLSs and Fighters games it just don't have the cake to do it.=/ I mane I play some games on the PC but win it comes to games on a console it's like way better. I'm a veteran gamer and I'm always looking for someone to be a better gamer thin I'm am.......HO sorry I could go on and on. My point is that win comes to games I know my stuff. :3
GreenHorn said:
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I'll agree to this since I'm a gamer myself, more games are better on PC since you can mod them, but there are some other games that are just better on console.
GreenHorn said:
I don't know, its like you can play some games on a PC like RTSs and RPGs games but win it come to FPSs, RLSs and Fighters games it just don't have the cake to do it.
I think roughly the same way, with exclusion of FPS. Nothing beats old mouse+keyboard combo for them :). I was pretty hardcore gamer back in the old days, even so I've never owned a console of any kind. They weren't really popular in my country, not sure why. Nowadays I just play occasionally, mostly some classics ^^.
Oh, so THAT is what a console fanboy is. Thanks for saying it in a clear phrase. In that case, I am also a console fanboy, but truly, I am a Nintendo 64 fanboy. That my friends, is the greatest system mankind has ever created. I mean, sure, a keyboard and mouse is fine, and with some games, better, (like Oblivian), but for the most part, Nintendo FTW, Playstations 1&2 are awesome, and some X-Box are fun.
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Dislikes:pretty much everything else
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Xavier said:
praticing Kendo / hmmm...I think that is it
Cool! thats got to be fun to do and I don't think thats all of it you still have Sex, Age, Country and Religion lol. :3.......I think you forgot to add anime to your "Likes"?

Nikorasu_Mugentsuki said:
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I'm a PS3 fan all the way. :P
But I still some times play my Wii, Xbox360, PSP and PC but thay are no wear as fun as the PS3. =)
GreenHorn said:
I'm a PS3 fan all the way. :P
But I still some times play my Wii, Xbox360, PSP and PC but thay are no wear as fun as the PS3. =)
Must be nice to be able to afford all of those.

And man kids these days, I went out and built my computer out of junk parts I got from different places, nowadays you just buy your fancy toys/console,
Cuda007 said:
Must be nice to be able to afford all of those.
Dude I worked my ass off too get my shit and like I said I'm a veteran gamer. I did every thing I could too play games....games are my life, not anime...
And man kids these days, I went out and built my computer out of junk parts I got from different places, nowadays you just buy your fancy toys/console,
??? I'm older thin you are....I guess I'm sorry I work my ass off to get my money. =/
Hey, I got my N64 for 18 dollars, my PS2 was a gift, and so was my PSP. The only thing I really had to pay for was my TV, and that has more uses than just Video games. All in all, I'd have to say my life revolves around computers. I'd be lost without them and for crying out loud I'm going to tech to be an Info Tech Network Specialist. If that doesn't scream computers, what does? Okay it screams geek too, but is that really a bad thing? GEEKS WILL SOMEDAY RULE THIS WORLD!!!
Cuda007 said:
And man kids these days, I went out and built my computer out of junk parts I got from different places, nowadays you just buy your fancy toys/console,
Is that really bad? ^^ My first computer (memorable P166MMX overclocked to 200MHz) was a piece I had no clue about in the beginning. Now I can't imagine buying non custom tailored PC, but you can't expect everybody to do that. Likewise nobody expects you to clearly understand how does every single element of your car work. It's supposed to run and let you easily know basic stuff like oil level or water temperature.
While I'm nowhere near being a console maniac I have to applaud them for simplicity of use, real plug&play - so you can't blame ppl for buying them.

Cuda007 said:
Must be nice to be able to afford all of those.
Buying stuff with self earned money is the best :).
What I meant by that statement is that you can't be a true gamer unless you've built your own computer (either on your own or at a store) or know how all the part of you computer work, I hate when people who have these nice computers, and all they did was go out and buy it. Then when you ask about part of it, they can't tell you anything. It mainly came out because that just happen earlier when I was out.

And at you other statement, you have to have money before you can have that feeling, when I spend the little money I have, I feel my heart hurt some. I'm still waiting for Obama to start fixing this country, but I guess he only cares about the blacks and the money he's making.
Cuda007 said:
What I meant by that statement is that you can't be a true gamer unless you've built your own computer(...)
I misunderstood your earlier statement a little. Obviously I agree with that - being a gamer means some love for your hardware and love without understanding is definitely lacking ^^.
Also I'd rather not leave putting my computer together to some unknown people at store. It just kinda creeps me out :).
Cuda007 said:

And at you other statement, you have to have money before you can have that feeling, when I spend the little money I have, I feel my heart hurt some. I'm still waiting for Obama to start fixing this country, but I guess he only cares about the blacks and the money he's making.
don't worry, soon americans will have a pedophile/mafioso president as we italians xD
No, someday China will own us, as well as the rest of the world. Do you know how much debt we (America) owe China? It's completely rediculous. And what do we do about it? We borrow more.

Cuda007 said:
What I meant by that statement is that you can't be a true gamer unless you've built your own computer... or know how all the part of you computer work
I qualify, yay! I have never built a computer, but I have taken broken ones apart and put them back together so that some of them work properly. Of course, I know very little about software, but I can do the hardware portion adequately.
Nikorasu_Mugentsuki said:
No, someday China will own us, as well as the rest of the world. Do you know how much debt we (America) owe China? It's completely rediculous. And what do we do about it? We borrow more.
I know its in the millions at least, and I know that the way Obama had suggested getting out of it, is by taxing us more. I don't know if that plan is going to go through but it was one of the things he wanted to do.
Cuda007 said:
What I meant by that statement is that you can't be a true gamer unless you've built your own computer
Thats not true. A gamer is based on his knowledge on games not by if he made his computer. Thats a Techy that your talking about.

Cuda007 said:
I'm still waiting for Obama to start fixing
=/ Why are you hoping on others? You never hope no others too fix stuff...Ever.

.....But I guess I'm talking to my self on this one.
GreenHorn said:
Thats not true. A gamer is based on his knowledge on games not by if he made his computer. Thats a Techy that your talking about.
True, but you can't be a street racer unless you know everything about your car right, same goes for your computer, a true gamer know the limits of his/hers computer/console along with being great at gaming. I guess in the different gaming circles, the term "gamer" has a silty different meaning.

GreenHorn said:
=/ Why are you hoping on others? You never hope no others too fix stuff...Ever.

.....But I guess I'm talking to my self on this one.
What you think a kid coming from the hood could really do in todays society? I already have a very hard time finding a job, no one wants a kid with no working experience, they want people for manager positions.
Cuda007 said:
True, but you can't be a street racer unless you know everything about your car right, same goes for your computer, a true gamer know the limits of his/hers computer/console along with being great at gaming.
No your wrong. You insult the old gamers by those words. Do you really think the old gamers knew how to make a computer? No thay did not know how. Thay played for the love of games at the arcades lol :). Thats what makes you a true gamer the love for games and skills is what makes you a noob from a master......One day you'll see what I'm talking about. ;)
Cuda007 said:
What you think a kid coming from the hood could really do in todays society? I already have a very hard time finding a job, no one wants a kid with no working experience, they want people for manager positions.
Don't say stuff like that!! You never lose hope in your self. If you lose hope in your self all is lost man. Just keep looking Cuda007 and don't give up. ^^
GreenHorn said:
No your wrong. You insult the old gamers by those words. Do you really think the old gamers knew how to make a computer? No thay did not know how. Thay played for the love of games at the arcades lol :). Thats what makes you a true gamer the love for games and skills is what makes you a noob from a master......One day you'll see what I'm talking about. ;)
Now you're just twisting on my words, I'm not talking about the older days, to make it in todays gaming circles (which I'm part of some) you have to know your computer inside and out and the limits of it, even if you didn't build it, and yes having the love of game is part of it, well most of it, and like I said the term "gamer" has different meaning in different circles.

GreenHorn said:
Don't say stuff like that!! You never lose hope in your self. If you lose hope in your self all is lost man. Just keep looking Cuda007 and don't give up. ^^
Come get a job in Orlando and see how hard it is. All the "teen jobs" have been taken, all chain stores that I've been to have at least 1500 apps. sitting in the back, I stand no chance. I've learn not to have high hopes, you fall hard when they go away.
GreenHorn said:
No your wrong. You insult the old gamers by those words. Do you really think the old gamers knew how to make a computer? No thay did not know how. Thay played for the love of games at the arcades lol :).
I think Cuda007 was taking primarily about PC gamers. Getting your very own rig is very important for them - part of the reason is standard ones being almost always unbalanced pieces of shit. That results in them being underpowered or hell expensive, thus not suited for a gamer. I think it became like that sometime around advent of graphics accelerators.

Cuda007 said:
Come get a job in Orlando and see how hard it is. All the "teen jobs" have been taken, all chain stores that I've been to have at least 1500 apps. sitting in the back, I stand no chance. I've learn not to have high hopes, you fall hard when they go away.
Well, you need to get some skills (for example programming) and use them. Less skills needed for work - more competition or shitty pay. Idk how exactly it's in USA, but here teens also do things like writing simple webpages for money. In the long run it's best to become an engineer or something similar - It's way easier to find work than being in liberal arts of some kind. At least it looks like that from my position (and situation in my country, not exactly first league in world's economy).
"Hard work and guts" matter much more than coming form the hood. ^^
I'm already in school for website design, and soon for programing, and thankfully I'm getting those classes for free, the problem is I need money for my car the get it registered before the city takes it, I also need money for my computer and for helping out my family some. We only get about a 100USD a week for food, the rest of what my parents make goes to bills..........Oh and I need money to get more porn of course. :D
Cuda007 said:
Oh and I need money to get more porn of course. :D
in this case internet is your friend...

direct downloads, torrent and e-mule...

need more??? =D
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patokite91 said:
in this case internet is your friend...

direct downloads, torrent and e-mule...

need more??? =D
LOL true true, however those take up space and normally have shitty quality.
Also talking about gamers, something just as important as knowing how your hardware/computer works, is the ability/dedication to try and optimizing your system to be faster/more stable then a just reinstalled home os (for windows for example).
You can have just as much of a game performance/control increase by fiddling with settings in windows/register/the game that you can get by getting new hardware. (I'm just talking software fiddling here and not any actual overclocking though).

I know alot of ppl just play with whatever they got, but the more hardcore they are the more then try to optimize their system as well.

Still counting the fact that almost all the mainstream hardware of today is great (unless you just go for the standard DELL computer pack -_-) as long as you use [ w w w . g o o g l e . c o m ] to keep an eye out for the biggest breakthroughs (ssd drives for example) you don't need to worry much about what hardware you use when gaming.
Curs3d said:
ssd drives for example
SSD's just can't deliver performance per buck as good as RAID array of platter drives (not mentioning capacity). Also disk performance isn't really a bottleneck during gaming.
Their place for now is in notebooks (low power and noise) and in systems with extremely high I/O rates, like heavy databases.
That's true at least for now: MLC SSD aren't that much faster than platter drives and SLC ones are still prohibitively expensive.

In my opinion, from well maintained OS and balanced hardware you can't get a lot of power through software (maybe a few % at most). I'm more in favor of building well balanced PC with PSU and mainboard a little better than other components require, to make upgrade of the trio GPU/CPU/RAM possible after about 2 to 3 years after buying. This way for relatively little money I can have 5 years worth of playing without thinking about games running slow.
I don't think so with technology constantly getting better, the best now is crap in a month
Xavier said:
I don't think so with technology constantly getting better, the best now is crap in a month
Stop looking at marketing names and start digging into tests/specs. Take Core Duos for example, that was two years of pretty much unchanged processor. Only thing that had any meaning for real performance was transition to 45nm, and that didn't really make it more than 20-30% faster. The same thing applies to GPUs and even more so to hard drives.

It was like that since I remember, hardware makers always pushing new things to get customer's wallets. You should never rely on cool names and numbers given by marketers, just check real word performance instead.
I was thinking graphic cards and processers and the like
lol

Sorry I'm not going to read all of these posts. ^_^